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By: Chris Morrison

Chris Morrison — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:09:33 +0000

Above commenters: Agreed, a choice of plug-in hybrids would be an excellent solution for the moment. But that’s not really the point. The point is that it’s worthwhile to start developing electrics now. We need hybrids in the short-term; long-term, electrics are both viable and desirable.

Some very reasonable first attempts at electric cars were produced during the first ZEV program (the RAV4 got 80 – 120 miles per charge, Franklin, not 40). Unfortunately, by turning around and dropping the program, the CARB managed to erase whatever progress it had made.

With a little bit of focus and ingenuity, there’s every possibility that electric vehicles could work. See what Project Better Place is doing in Israel and Denmark. You can make the argument that we’d be damaging the business of major car manufacturers by forcing them to make electrics, but nothing thus far has managed to hurt Detroit as much as letting it have its own way.

Finally, if electrics become available, rest assured that some crazed Californians will actually buy the things. Ever heard of Tesla — and its waiting list?

By: Franklin Ruth

Franklin Ruth — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:53:59 +0000

I have a question about the supposed claims that are criticizing the CARB board. How, exectly, do they plan on forcing those people to buy those (non-existent) electric cars, even if some company was stupid enough to build them?
Mitsubishi will supposedly be building an EV for the US fairly soon. If California wants 50000 of these guys why can’t Mitsubiishi supply them? Why does the law require every automaker to produce an EV? Isn’t that rather counterproductive and inane? California apparently is too dumb to realize that an electric car market wil be much more likely to attract the attention of an automaker if they feel confident they won’t have a lot of competition for what would be a very tiny niche market. I mean, how many Californians can possibly make do with owning a car that can only make round trips to destinations less than 40 miles away. Add California heat/traffic ties ups and heavy AC usage and that destination betterbe closer than 30 miles away. Doesn’t California have ANYONE out there who can think logical thoughts? The Union of Concerned Scientists seems to have all the intelligence of a union of concerned
mental retardates. Exactly what kind of “scientists ” are those dimwitted souls? Sociology professors, is my guess.

By: Kerry Matthews

Kerry Matthews — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:45:18 +0000

I agree. Californians are trying to make the same stupid they did in the past with their euphemistically titled
“zero emissions law” which strangely makes the claim that
very non-zero electricity (650 pounds per megwatthour, no less!!!) can power a vehicle and result in zero emissions. This kind of logic pervades the thinking og the dolts living in that state. Their last zero emissions law blocked the only conceivable solution (plug-in hybrids) in favor of fuel cell and all electric impossibilities. You can now see howdisastrous that arrogance has turned out to be. All that’s been accomplished is a bunch of Prius hybrids that didn’t have anything to do with their ZEVs. Only arrogant, stupid California operates under the delusion that their laws can command the seas to part, and cars to operate without producing emissions. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Fools, total, utter, incredibly stupid fools, those Californians.
They are now claiming that a technolgy that has been completely dead since before World War I is “being killed” by their CARB board. Ha, ha, ha,ha, ha, ha.

By: thomas C Gray

thomas C Gray — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:37:54 +0000

Only in silly California do they hold to the notion that the electric car is, or ever was, alive. They’ve claimed to have “killed” that deadend technology more times than
Dracula. If they only had a brain, they’d realize that battery-only EVs actually require more gasoline than plug-in hybrids, which can save tons of emissions on every trip, while EVs often cannot even be used and must be replaced by
all gasoline power. The things those California dolts don’t know is only exceeded by the number of false facts they fervently believe. What a collection of morons. It must be the air out there.